Flying Monkeys
People sent to pressure you for someone else
Station 2 of 19 on the Turning people against you line. Code P 02
Safety first
Most messengers mean well, so this is not usually dangerous in itself. It becomes a safety matter when the questions are about where you live, who you are with or when you are alone.
It also becomes one when contact keeps arriving after you have gone quiet to stay safe. Share nothing about your location or routine with anyone who might pass it on.
Ask a domestic abuse advocate to help plan who can know what.
What is Flying Monkeys?
People close to you start passing on someone else’s demands or questions. They usually think they are helping, while the person behind it stays hidden.
It can sound like
- I’m not taking sides, but they’re really hurting. Can’t you just call them?
- They asked me to talk to you. I don’t want to be the bad guy, but somebody has to say it.
- I only know what they’ve told me, but you need to hear this.
Also called Proxy Recruitment
Signs it might be this
- The messenger quotes details that only one person could have supplied, or uses that person’s phrases.
- They tell you they were asked to get in touch, or let it slip.
- Several people with little recent contact raise the same issue within days.
- Their questions concern where you are, who you are with or what you plan to do, more than how you feel.
- What you say in reply reaches the original person, who then responds to your exact words.
Signs it is probably something else
- The person has a record of reaching out on their own, with no sign of contact with the other side.
- They are as willing to hear your account as the other person’s, and are clear they will not carry it back.
- Their concerns include things the other person never raised.
- Their worry looks the same whether or not you answer.
- They tell you plainly whose message it is and accept a no without pressing.
- The messenger is open about who asked them and accepts your answer without pressing.
- The contact happens once and ends when you reply.
Questions to ask yourself
- Does this person’s account match what I know, or do they hold only one version?
- Did they say they were asked? If I ask, will they tell me?
- Would they have contacted me if the other person had not been upset?
- Does what I tell them stay with them?
- Are the questions about me, or about where I am and what I am doing?
- Do they hear my side as well, or only carry theirs?
What it is
Flying monkeys are third parties who carry another person’s pressure, messages or watching to someone. They often believe they are simply helping.
The plainer term, proxy recruitment, puts the weight on the asking and not on the go-between. A single relative checking in is ordinary.
It starts to look like this tactic when the same message arrives from several people. The message is shaped by one person’s account, while the original person never has to answer for it.
Why it matters
Pressure comes from several directions at once, from people who believe they are acting out of their own concern. That makes it nearly impossible to answer without seeming to attack them.
The person whose concern it really is never has to stand behind what is being demanded.
How it shows up
- A person asked or persuaded to carry a message, a demand or an apology to you, so that they, and not the original person, face you.
- A messenger who usually holds only one side’s account, often believes it, and may be sincerely worried.
- Contact can run the other way too. Messengers may gather news about where you are, who you see and how you are, and pass it back.
- The same request arriving from several people within a short span, in similar words.
- Found in families, friend groups, congregations and workplaces, and after separations.
What you can do
Read the safety note at the top first. If speaking up could make things worse, skip the wording below and talk to someone you trust or a local support service.
Words you could use
“Caring about this is good of you. I’m not going to talk about it through someone else, so I’d rather keep our conversation to how you’re doing. Can we talk about something else?”
Ask about it gently
Thank the messenger for caring and answer only about how you are doing, nothing about plans or whereabouts. You can reply on your own schedule.
Set a clear limit
Turn down the topic, not the person. Keep it brief: ‘I’d rather not get into that through you, but I’m glad you’re thinking of me.’
Step back
Say nothing about plans, location or new contacts to anyone who might relay it, and let a call go unanswered when you feel pressed. You do not owe a reply on the spot.
Get support
Tell an advocate or a trusted person outside the circle who is contacting you and what they ask. They can help judge whether it is concern or tracking, and what to keep private.
At work, school or with services
If colleagues are being sent to press you, keep dated notes of who said what. Bring them to HR or a manager you trust as a pattern, not as accusations.
Using this label fairly
- Calling a worried relative a flying monkey can end a friendship that was only concern. Ask first whether they were asked to get in touch; many will say.
- The label describes a role in an exchange, not a verdict on the person carrying the message.
How it differs from look-alikes
Triangulation pulls a third party into the conflict as ammunition, by comparing you to them or quoting them against you. Here the third party is sent to you or sent to look at you.
Concern Trolling wraps a control directive in worry, whether or not anyone else is involved. Forced Teaming builds a ‘we’ that erases your choice.
Flying monkeys is the one defined by someone else standing in for the original person.